Showing posts with label Mayweather. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mayweather. Show all posts

Saturday, December 5, 2009

Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather: Winners and Losers

By Daniel “Tex” Cohen-December 5, 2009

For the first time since Mike Tyson-Evander Holyfield, the Boxing world has produced a fight that all of mainstream America will hear about. Manny Pacquiao is close to a household name. His status in his home country is that of a man with 100% name recognition. His in-ring performance over the last five years is, unmatched; this statement can be made unabashedly, in spite of what any Mayweather fan may state.

Mayweather, however, is no chopped liver. We must remember that Money brings perhaps the purest talent to the table when he steps in the ring. His punches are crisp and quick, slashing and sneaking in from all angles and at all speeds. Mayweather fights like he’s on a pitcher’s mound. He’ll pound you inside with three fastballs, take something off and catch you on a changeup, then finish the job with a slow curve or more high heat. Mayweather’s knockout of Ricky Hatton, a scene already erased from the mind of many Boxing fans, is worth its weight in gold. It’s no exaggeration to say that the clip is plenty worthy of highlight reels. The fact that so many have forgotten and neglected that finale only reinforces Mayweather’s opinion that he does not get enough credit. If Pacquiao fans want him to shut up and fight their man, it might be a good time to give him some.

The problem with Boxing is that it takes a perfect world to make a perfect fight. Whereas other sports guarantee marquee matchups by way of schedules, major network TV, and divisional arrangements, Boxing is stuck in the dark ages of shady, backroom, aristocratic, thuggish dealings between millionaires that wouldn’t necessarily make it in other businesses.

Could you imagine if Yankees didn’t play the Red Sox next year because George Steinbrenner and John Henry were “too far apart on the money”? Major League Baseball doesn’t let “fights” fall apart because it knows that a positive image is what makes the “fights” worthwhile.

Boxing should take a cue and keep this bout together. First of all, it ought to know better anyway. Second, the world in which the camps of Pacquiao and Mayweather are negotiating a showdown will not get any closer to perfect. Mayweather was the Pound for Pound King. Pacquiao ascended the throne in his absence. Mayweather’s comeback fight was a victory over Pacquiao’s greatest foil in Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao’s most recent victory was over one of Mayweather’s greatest foils in Miguel Cotto. Both guys are now most comfortable at welterweight. Both guys do huge Pay Per View numbers. Both guys have beaten both Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. Both guys have promoters with major sway in the sport.

(Pacquiao is, of course, Bob Arum’s greatest fighter. Mayweather is now represented by Richard Schaeffer, a fact so under the radar it’s almost frightening. Think about it: Floyd Mayweather, JR., is basically a Golden Boy Promotions fighter. Should he be scared of the curse?)

There is little to nothing that can get in the way of this fight. However, this is the fight game, a sport that we love and hate. If anything could get in the way of a perfect storm, it would be something related to Boxing.

RSR presents the Top Obstacles to Pacquiao-Mayweather

#1 Money

Ok, so this one was a no-brainer. It still merits consideration. Mayweather wants 65% of the purse. Just typing that number caused me to bend in half laughing. I seriously had to just stop typing for five minutes. There is no way that Mayweather is the bigger star in a showdown between these two. His PR has finally caught up to him: Those on the fence now stand against him until he agrees to fight and keeps the bout together in spite of slight differences over dollars and cents. 50-50, Floyd. If you want to make 65, make it 35-35 with the final 30% riding on the victory.

#2 Shane Mosley

Mosley approached Mayweather in the ring after Floyd won his fight against Juan Manuel Marquez…and considering who now promotes Mayweather and Mosley, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if it were set up. Mosley is a great fighter, but he is a clear cut rung below Pacquiao when it comes to becoming half of a possible super fight. I have no problem with Shane getting an eventual shot at either man, but my fear is that he will be just dangerous enough and appealing to fight fans and just impressive enough in terms of resume-building that Mayweather will consider fighting him and retiring promptly afterward, again slipping out the backdoor of the building with the claim that he is the greatest of all time. However, this seems unlikely. Given the overwhelming amount of hype that is building around the bare prospect of Mayweather-Pacquiao, it seems unlikely that Mayweather will have anywhere else to go.

#3 Mayweather

I don’t think Floyd is looking to kill the fight (though his statements appear that way at first). All of the talk he does is for money; He’s actually very honest about his priorities. What I could see happening is Floyd’s ego growing so big that he can’t get close enough to negotiate. I know that this is close to reason number one, but there is an extra bit wrapped into ego. He not only thinks he is worth a certain amount of money. He also thinks he is worth a certain amount of time. The Boxing world wants to see him spend some of that time in the ring with Pacquiao… But I also want to win the lottery. We can’t always get what we want.

#4 Sanctioning Bodies

This one is a reach, but hear me out. Pacquiao is now the WBO Super Champion. To keep his belt, he has to fight a top contender at some point (Joshua Clottey is ranked number one).

You know what? Don’t hear me out. Manny Pacquiao doesn’t and shouldn’t care one bit about a stupid welterweight belt that’s barely worth the gym rubber it’s printed on. This fight will be for the Ring Pound for Pound Championship and never-ending greatness. After he fights Floyd, we’ll probably never see him in the ring again.

#5 Politics

I mean real politics, by the way, not the sort of nonsense that goes on between promoters on Sunday nights. Congress always gets its hands in something stupid, and I could see armed combat on the docket at some point in the future. Fortunately for us, that day is likely very far away, leaving plenty of time for the fight lobby to get its act together and make this stinking fight.

Monday, November 23, 2009

Early fight Odds Favor Mayweather

By Abac Cordero (The Philippine Star) Updated November 24, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The betting lines are open for Floyd Mayweather Jr. versus Manny Pacquiao even before negotiations for the richest fight in history. Bob Arum of Top Rank, representing Pacquiao, and Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy, who has helped seal Mayweather’s previous fights, are just about to begin talks for the fight the whole world wants to see.

And yet, the betting lines are now open, and it should be the first time concerning a fight that may or may not happen. If it does, it should take place no sooner than June or July next year or even a little later than that.

But at the BetUs Sportsbook, the odds are out, and it’s Mayweather, the flamboyant and undefeated American who came out as the early favorite against the hard-hitting, Filipino pound-for-pound champion.

Mayweather is undefeated in 40 fights, his latest, against a smaller Juan Manuel Marquez, coming after a 21-month retirement. Pacquiao, on the other hand, has fought and beaten everyone over the last four years and eight months.

In the early bettings, Mayweather was tagged as a -165 favorite, meaning to win a hundred bucks you must shell out $165. Pacquiao is at +125, that a bet of $100 wins $125.

Except for his fight with Oscar dela Hoya last December, Pacquiao had been favored against his previous opponents, and that include Marco Antonio Barrera, Marquez, David Diaz, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto.

Pacquiao went as high as being -350 against Cotto and settled in at -280 against the Puerto Rican’s -230 on the eve of the fight that ended with a masterful 12-round TKO for the 30-year-old Filipino southpaw.

The Mayweather versus Pacquiao is a fight that could break all existing records in boxing, and one that could generate more than $150 million in pay-per-view sales and give each boxer earnings of as high as $50 million each. But it may or may not happen, depending on the negotiations, since both sides want a bigger piece of the cake. But as experts say, there’d be so much money on the table for the two camps to call it off.

“The money will be unprecedented so they should figure it out (how to make the deal),” said Emmanuel Steward.

And while the bets are on, Hatton, six months after his devastating second-round loss to Pacquiao, is putting his money on Mayweather even if he admitted that the ex-pound-for-pound king is a bore to watch.

“I think Mayweather would win because he’s just so good defensively and hard to hit. (But) Pacquiao gets better with every fight. I didn’t fancy him against Miguel Cotto earlier this month but he smashed him to bits. I was blown away,” Hatton told the UK press.

“If I had to put money on it I’d tip Mayweather though. He has the style and shuts up shop so you can’t nailhim. Mayweather is so good he doesn’t let you get any punches off. If he makes Pacquiao miss he’ll take the sting out of him.

“But I’d rather watch Pacquiao though. Mayweather will go down as one of the all time greats but I wouldn’t get up at four o’clock in the morning to watch him. He bores the s*** out of me. He should have knocked Juan Manuel Marquez out in September but didn’t, it was safety first all the time,” he added.





Pacquiao-Mayweather in Negotiations

By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com

Let the talks begin.

Formal negotiations in an effort to make a megafight between pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. in the first part of 2010 will open Monday, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com.

Schaefer was on his way Monday morning from Los Angeles to Las Vegas to meet Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, for lunch at the MGM Grand, which has hosted several Pacquiao and Mayweather fights.

"Floyd and me want to see if we can get the fight done," said Schaefer, who, although he doesn't have a promotional contract with Mayweather, has represented him in his past three fights and was asked to represent him in these talks. "The fact that I am flying to Las Vegas to meet with Bob shows you how serious our side is about making the fight.

"Bob and I will approach this without egos and try to get it done under fair terms. Floyd gave me his marching orders and I will see today how it goes and report back."

A pairing of Pacquiao and Mayweather is the biggest fight boxing has to offer and could break all sorts of revenue records.

In the year's biggest fight earlier this month, Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) beat Miguel Cotto on a technical knockout in the 12th round to win a welterweight title, his seventh title in a record seven weight divisions.

The fight sold 1.25 million units on pay-per-view and generated more than $70 million in domestic television revenue.

Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs), the former welterweight champ and pound-for-pound king before a short-lived retirement, returned on Sept. 19 to dominate lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez in a lopsided unanimous decision.

That fight generated 1.05 million buys on pay-per-view.

The all-time pay-per-view record is the 2.44 million buys generated by Mayweather's 2007 win against Oscar De La Hoya.

"I can confirm I am meeting with Richard, but I'm not going to talk about the specifics," Arum told ESPN.com. "It's a meeting where we will try to make the fight. Whether it can be made or not in this meeting, I don't know. We'll see what we will see."

Schaefer said he hopes he and Arum can make the fight quickly, rather than dragging the talks out for weeks.

"As part of the negotiations both Bob and I had to agree to keep all discussions confidential," Schaefer said. "No further comments will be made until such time that we either have a deal or the negotiations fall apart."

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.